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Oct 25, 2022

My guest today is Jason Droege, a venture partner at Benchmark. Jason’s had a long entrepreneurial career, which most recently culminated in building and leading Uber Eats. He joined Uber in 2014 with a blank piece of paper to grow the business beyond ride sharing. Within six years, he found product market fit with food delivery, refined the service, and scaled Uber Eats to a global $20 billion GMV run rate. Our conversation pulls out the most important lessons learned during that period and how Jason now employs them in his role at Benchmark. Please enjoy this great conversation with Jason Droege.

 

For the full show notes, transcript, and links to mentioned content, check out the episode page here.

 

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This episode is brought to you by Tegus. Tegus streamlines the investment research process so you can get up to speed and find answers to critical questions on companies faster and more efficiently. The Tegus platform surfaces the hard-to-get qualitative insights, gives instant access to critical public financial data through BamSEC, and helps you set up customized expert calls. It’s all done on a single, modern SaaS platform that offers 360-degree insight into any public or private company. I’ve been so impressed by the platform that my firm, Positive Sum, recently made an investment in Tegus. We did so because we feel that Tegus will be the gold standard platform for investing research for decades to come. As a listener, you can take Tegus for a free test drive by visiting tegus.co/patrick. And until 2023 every Tegus license comes with complimentary access to BamSec by Tegus.

 

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Today's episode is brought to you by Brex. Brex is the integrated financial platform trusted by the world's most innovative entrepreneurs and fastest-growing companies. With Brex, you can move money fast for instant impact with high-limit corporate cards, payments, venture debt, and spend management software all in one place. Ready to accelerate your business? Learn more at brex.com/best.

 

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Invest Like the Best is a property of Colossus, LLC. For more episodes of Invest Like the Best, visit joincolossus.com/episodes

 

Past guests include Tobi Lutke, Kevin Systrom, Mike Krieger, John Collison, Kat Cole, Marc Andreessen, Matthew Ball, Bill Gurley, Anu Hariharan, Ben Thompson, and many more.

 

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Follow us on Twitter: @patrick_oshag | @JoinColossus

 

Show Notes

[00:02:52] - [First question] - What it was like at a high level building Uber Eats

[00:07:38] - How he would structure entrepreneurial incentives on a platform like Uber for a new leader or team attempting to build on top of it

[00:10:17] - What he learned about selecting competitive frontiers and mistakes made while building Uber Eats

[00:15:17] - Things that Uber Eats got most right that he’s proud of 

[00:18:16] - Constructive mistakes that taught him a lot from his time with Uber Eats

[00:20:36] - What made India such a competitive environment 

[00:22:50] - Building a business with an uncertain end state of unit economics 

[00:26:13] - What improved the most in his playbook for launching in a new city

[00:27:14] - Defining what best means in this competitive sector  

[00:29:01] - Dealing with suppliers in different categories and finding an ideal balance

[00:32:09] - When monogamy between the buyer and supplier matters and when it doesn’t in a marketplace 

[00:33:29] - Other attributes of a marketplace he’d pay special attention to as an investor given what he’s learned building one

[00:36:12] - Defining what founder market fit is and being “fingertippy”

[00:37:29] - His views on the relationships between leaders of businesses and their cultures

[00:40:26] - Why Uber believed in him more than he did 

[00:41:40] - What he learned about marketing to suppliers specifically 

[00:43:44] - Find new businesses by looking for areas that technology hasn’t yet affected

[00:45:18] - Differing views he has on the concept of failure  

[00:47:31] - Thoughts about ideas versus execution and the relative importance of the two

[00:49:10] - Effectively measuring opportunity cost and using it in decision making  

[00:51:14] - What it’s like being inside of a consumer business that people have so many opinions about

[00:56:30] - How he would describe the landscape and state of the market he was in from a higher viewpoint today

[00:58:56] - The most interesting things he’s learned from his time as a partner at Benchmark

[01:00:15] - The kindest thing anyone has ever done for him

Oct 18, 2022

My guest today is Paul Orfalea. Paul founded Kinkos, the popular copy chain, in 1970. He started with a single photocopy shop in California and grew the business into a $2 billion multinational operation over the course of his 30 years in charge. Paul is a non-traditional leader in the best sense and we discuss his philosophy of business building, from why your subordinates should frustrate you, why you shouldn’t love your business and tips he learned on hiring well. Please enjoy this conversation with Paul Orfalea. 

 

Founders podcast on Paul Orfalea.

 

For the full show notes, transcript, and links to mentioned content, check out the episode page here.

 

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This episode is brought to you by Tegus. Tegus streamlines the investment research process so you can get up to speed and find answers to critical questions on companies faster and more efficiently. The Tegus platform surfaces the hard-to-get qualitative insights, gives instant access to critical public financial data through BamSEC, and helps you set up customized expert calls. It’s all done on a single, modern SaaS platform that offers 360-degree insight into any public or private company. I’ve been so impressed by the platform that my firm, Positive Sum, recently made an investment in Tegus. We did so because we feel that Tegus will be the gold standard platform for investing research for decades to come. As a listener, you can take Tegus for a free test drive by visiting tegus.co/patrick

 

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Today's episode is brought to you by Brex. Brex is the integrated financial platform trusted by the world's most innovative entrepreneurs and fastest-growing companies. With Brex, you can move money fast for instant impact with high-limit corporate cards, payments, venture debt, and spend management software all in one place. Ready to accelerate your business? Learn more at brex.com/best.

 

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Invest Like the Best is a property of Colossus, LLC. For more episodes of Invest Like the Best, visit joincolossus.com/episodes

 

Past guests include Tobi Lutke, Kevin Systrom, Mike Krieger, John Collison, Kat Cole, Marc Andreessen, Matthew Ball, Bill Gurley, Anu Hariharan, Ben Thompson, and many more.

 

Stay up to date on all our podcasts by signing up to Colossus Weekly, our quick dive every Sunday highlighting the top business and investing concepts from our podcasts and the best of what we read that week. Sign up here.

 

Follow us on Twitter: @patrick_oshag | @JoinColossus

 

Show Notes

[00:02:58] - [First question] - What it was like to be a very bad student in highschool

[00:04:22] - When he first realized he was unemployable

[00:05:02] - The origin story of the very first Kinko’s

[00:06:13] - What the ideal progression of an entrepreneur is in his mind 

[00:06:57] - Recognizing real customer problems and what he enjoys most about sales

[00:07:53] - Finding what has worked well in each Kinko’s and coaching managers

[00:08:54] - Something he found that a manager was doing that blew him away

[00:10:22] - Getting messages from his brain to everyone else in the Kinko’s network 

[00:11:45] - The difference of working on and not in the business

[00:13:22] - What he got better at when it came to managing people 

[00:13:57] - Why a good salesperson will sell you broke  

[00:14:41] - Disagreeableness as a positive characteristic for people in business

[00:15:08] - Whether or not candor is different from disagreeableness

[00:15:36] - Why he teaches, what he teaches, and his teaching style

[00:18:31] - Explaining the Federal Reserve in two minutes  

[00:19:47] - What students most commonly want from him  

[00:20:06] - Whether or not making yourself inaccessible as a leader is good for promoting a self-starter attitude amongst team members 

[00:21:39] - The story about tearing down a sign that was antagonistic to a customer

[00:21:58] - The role of anger in his career and something he’s worked on over time

[00:22:31] - Where Kinko’s falls on the spectrum of bad to great businesses

[00:24:09] - Characteristics he’d look for in founders to back a business early

[00:25:08] - Qualities of a business he’d cultivate more or less if he could start over

[00:26:18] - Lessons learned about using the word employee

[00:26:42] - His strategy for where to go next once he had his original concept

[00:27:21] - The most clever marketing strategy he ever deployed or designed

[00:27:45] - Learning to spread the glory instead of the money  

[00:28:30] - The state of entrepreneurship today compared to when he started 

[00:29:50] - How he instilled frugality and the saving mentality in the business 

[00:30:42] - What motivated him across his career

[00:31:35] - Why being in it for the money seems odd in today’s lens

[00:32:34] - Who he most admired or most admires today 

[00:32:51] - Let My People Go Surfing: The Education of a Reluctant Businessman

[00:33:08] - Preserving the alignment of integrity and action 

[00:33:42] - What it felt like to sell a business he’d worked so hard on 

[00:34:57] - How good he is naturally with numbers and math being dyslexic 

[00:37:17] - Defining success as having your adult children want to hang out with you and what stood out about his parents to him 

[00:38:05] - His parents’ impression of him while he was building Kinko’s 

[00:38:34] - What has his interest and keeps his interest most 

[00:39:56] - The most interesting person he’s ever worked with at Kinko’s

[00:40:48] - What he would have done differently if he started from scratch

[00:41:24] - Something that is most underappreciated about the United States 

[00:43:00] - The kindest thing anyone has ever done for him 

[00:43:57] - A big lesson he’s earned in a deeper way that he wishes he could share with others

Oct 11, 2022

My guest today is Madhavan Ramanujam. Madhavan quite literally wrote the book on how to price products, it’s called “Monetizing Innovations” and his concepts have been used by companies across the world like Porsche, Uber, LinkedIn, and SuperHuman. Our conversation is a masterclass on pricing. We discuss common mistakes when pricing products, why you need to focus on benefits rather than features, and how to pick the right monetization model. Please enjoy my conversation with Madhavan Ramanujam.

 

For the full show notes, transcript, and links to mentioned content, check out the episode page here.

 

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This episode is brought to you by Tegus. Tegus streamlines the investment research process so you can get up to speed and find answers to critical questions on companies faster and more efficiently. The Tegus platform surfaces the hard-to-get qualitative insights, gives instant access to critical public financial data through BamSEC, and helps you set up customized expert calls. It’s all done on a single, modern Saas platform that offers 360-degree insight into any public or private company. I’ve been so impressed by the platform that my firm, Positive Sum, recently made an investment in Tegus. As a listener, you can take Tegus for a free test drive by visiting tegus.co/patrick. And until 2023 every Tegus license comes with complimentary access to BamSec by Tegus.

 

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Today's episode is brought to you by Brex. Brex is the integrated financial platform trusted by the world's most innovative entrepreneurs and fastest-growing companies. With Brex, you can move money fast for instant impact with high-limit corporate cards, payments, venture debt, and spend management software all in one place. Ready to accelerate your business? Learn more at brex.com/best.

 

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Invest Like the Best is a property of Colossus, LLC. For more episodes of Invest Like the Best, visit joincolossus.com/episodes

 

Past guests include Tobi Lutke, Kevin Systrom, Mike Krieger, John Collison, Kat Cole, Marc Andreessen, Matthew Ball, Bill Gurley, Anu Hariharan, Ben Thompson, and many more.

 

Stay up to date on all our podcasts by signing up to Colossus Weekly, our quick dive every Sunday highlighting the top business and investing concepts from our podcasts and the best of what we read that week. Sign up here.

 

Follow us on Twitter: @patrick_oshag | @JoinColossus

 

Show Notes

[00:02:48] - [First question] - How he arrived at a radically different way of building products

[00:05:07] - An example of coming up with a price before the product

[00:08:35] - Distinctions between a willingness to pay and positive feedback 

[00:10:29] - How to make sure you’re talking to the right potential customer in the first place

[00:13:32] - Productizing for different customer segments 

[00:16:16] - Questions companies should be asking to get accurate feedback

[00:21:18] - What he’s learned about the motivations of potential buyers

[00:22:43] - What leaders, killers, and fillers are

[00:24:37] - Some of the biggest mistakes companies make while following his formula

[00:25:35] - A rule of thumb for what is a benefit versus a feature

[00:27:35] - Five distinct pricing models for charging a customer

[00:30:46] - Whether or not the value piece of all of this revolves around time and money

[00:33:27] - What he tells entrepreneurs about pricing their products that most surprises them 

[00:35:16] - Defining the first four categories of failure 

[00:40:13] - Reasons why so many innovations fail to monetize and pricing being a CEO topic

[00:41:51] - Good rules that leaders can use to have a general sense for effective pricing 

[00:47:38] - Behavioral changes and observations as the absolute price move up and down 

[00:50:36] - Is there a pricing genius we should take note of?

[00:53:18] - The single question every leader should ask themselves

[00:53:46] - The kindest thing anyone has ever done for him

Oct 4, 2022

My guest today is Scott Wilson. Scott is the CIO of Washington University’s endowment, which manages over $13 billion. In this conversation we discuss WashU’s non-traditional endowment model and cover a variety of asset classes and geographies. We talk about the qualities Scott looks for in managers, lessons from investing in Asia and emerging markets, and red flags in the venture space. Please enjoy this conversation with Scott Wilson.

 

For the full show notes, transcript, and links to mentioned content, check out the episode page here.

 

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This episode is brought to you by Tegus. Tegus streamlines the investment research process so you can get up to speed and find answers to critical questions on companies faster and more efficiently. The Tegus platform surfaces the hard-to-get qualitative insights, gives instant access to critical public financial data through BamSEC, and helps you set up customized expert calls. It’s all done on a single, modern Saas platform that offers 360-degree insight into any public or private company. I’ve been so impressed by the platform that my firm, Positive Sum, recently made an investment in Tegus. We did so because we feel that Tegus will be the gold standard platform for investing research for decades to come. As a listener, you can take Tegus for a free test drive by visiting tegus.co/patrick. And until 2023 every Tegus license comes with complimentary access to BamSec by Tegus.



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Today's episode is brought to you by Brex. Brex is the integrated financial platform trusted by the world's most innovative entrepreneurs and fastest-growing companies. With Brex, you can move money fast for instant impact with high-limit corporate cards, payments, venture debt, and spend management software all in one place. Ready to accelerate your business? Learn more at brex.com/best.

 

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Invest Like the Best is a property of Colossus, LLC. For more episodes of Invest Like the Best, visit joincolossus.com/episodes

 

Past guests include Tobi Lutke, Kevin Systrom, Mike Krieger, John Collison, Kat Cole, Marc Andreessen, Matthew Ball, Bill Gurley, Anu Hariharan, Ben Thompson, and many more.

 

Stay up to date on all our podcasts by signing up to Colossus Weekly, our quick dive every Sunday highlighting the top business and investing concepts from our podcasts and the best of what we read that week. Sign up here.

 

Follow us on Twitter: @patrick_oshag | @JoinColossus

 

Show Notes

[00:02:38] - [First question] - What he learned about markets from quant fixed income trading 

[00:04:42] - How his experience shaped his degree of skepticism of the world

[00:05:15] - The story that brought him to Grinnell College 

[00:06:45] - What his education was like back in 2010 and what seemed sensible and insane when he arrived

[00:08:05] - The style of investment he learned at Grinnell compared to his style now

[00:09:37] - His philosophy around trying to have more direct ownership

[00:11:00] - Why their co-investment approach is outperforming the rest 

[00:12:03] - Lessons learned about choosing good partners and doing it effectively over time

[00:13:51] - Things that are most enjoyable about getting to know new managers 

[00:14:25] - The role that global travel and having boots on the ground plays in his success

[00:16:17] - Why they spend so much time in frontier and emerging markets

[00:18:21] - Lessons learned from investing in China and thoughts on it today 

[00:20:10] - What else he’s learned in continental Asia outside of China

[00:21:02] - Interests and red flags when it comes to investing in the venture space

[00:23:16] - The worst things he sees from venture investors 

[00:24:39] - Whether or not venture investors should care more 

[00:26:16] - The virtues and vices in private equity and his thoughts on that space

[00:27:55] - What percentage of investors in private equity are investors versus just involved to try and engineer returns

[00:28:59] - His impressions on hedge funds and the evolution of the hedge fund model

[00:31:18] - The role that credit can play in a portfolio like the one he manages now 

[00:33:10] - Common characteristics of managers that perform well in credit 

[00:34:20] - How he thinks about the sources of returns in the “other” portfolio category 

[00:36:34] - Everything he’s learned about asset managers acting as asset gatherers

[00:39:35] - Ways he fights convergence and tracking error overseeing so much capital 

[00:41:49] - What it’s like to go through the bad side of tracking error

[00:44:27] - Thoughts on how the macro environment influences allocating time and resources

[00:45:43] - What he sees as a normal level of tracking error for endowments and foundations

[00:46:59] - Why such big pools of institutional capital tend to look so similar 

[00:48:10] - Whether or not real estate sits somewhere between stocks and bonds

[00:49:07] - The cultivation of a talented investment team and effectively teaching investing 

[00:51:10] - Colliding managers in a fun and spirited way at meetings 

[00:52:16] - An investing trip from his career that he finds most memorable

[00:53:34] - Whether or not the factors that sort winners from losers will be different today compared to a decade ago

[00:52:50] - The kindest thing anyone has ever done for him

Sep 27, 2022

My guests today are Julio Vasconcellos and Mate Pencz, who are partners at Canary and Atlantico, leading early-stage investment firms in Latin America. They’re also both successful entrepreneurs. Mate is the co-founder and CEO of Brazilian real estate unicorn, Loft. Julio was Facebook’s first country lead for Brazil, an entrepreneur in residence at Benchmark, and the former founder of Peixe Urbano which sold to Baidu. This conversation was a great opportunity to dive into the state of investing and business in Latin America today, what it looks like on the ground, and cover the most interesting findings from Atlantico's annual report on Digital Transformation in the region. Please enjoy my conversation with Julio and Mate.

 

For the full show notes, transcript, and links to mentioned content, check out the episode page here.

 

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This episode is brought to you by Canalyst. Canalyst is the leading destination for public company data and analysis. If you're a professional equity investor and haven't talked to Canalyst recently, you should give them a shout. Learn more and try Canalyst for yourself at canalyst.com/Patrick

 

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Today's episode is brought to you by Brex. Brex is the integrated financial platform trusted by the world's most innovative entrepreneurs and fastest-growing companies. With Brex, you can move money fast for instant impact with high-limit corporate cards, payments, venture debt, and spend management software all in one place. Ready to accelerate your business? Learn more at brex.com/best.

 

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Invest Like the Best is a property of Colossus, LLC. For more episodes of Invest Like the Best, visit joincolossus.com/episodes

 

Past guests include Tobi Lutke, Kevin Systrom, Mike Krieger, John Collison, Kat Cole, Marc Andreessen, Matthew Ball, Bill Gurley, Anu Hariharan, Ben Thompson, and many more.

 

Stay up to date on all our podcasts by signing up to Colossus Weekly, our quick dive every Sunday highlighting the top business and investing concepts from our podcasts and the best of what we read that week. Sign up here.

 

Follow us on Twitter: @patrick_oshag | @JoinColossus

 

Show Notes

[00:02:39] - [First question] - A broad perspective on what is interesting in Latin American investing today - Latin America Digital Report 2022

[00:05:15] - What makes up the existing 1.5% tech penetration index in Lat Am

[00:06:11] - Florian Hagenbuch, Mate Pencz - Everything Will be Bought Online (Loft); David Velez - Building the Branchless Network (Nubank); How important it is to parse by country when it comes to building businesses in LatAm 

[00:08:31] - Overview of LatAm as a microcosm of fintech innovation happening really fast and what is most exciting in that sphere 

[00:12:28] - Why the adoption of PIX was so successful and how it maps onto the banking system

[00:14:27] - What PIX’s widespread adoption will enable for the coming wave of entrepreneurs 

[00:18:30] - Demographics, GDP, growth rates, and inequality in LatAm

[00:22:30] - Shifting to remote work and how it’ll affect LatAm workers and talent

[00:25:25] - Macro tailwinds that matter when it comes to returns in these markes

[00:30:06] - What it feels like for an entrepreneur today compared to when Loft launched 

[00:32:36] - Deeper themes and what needs to be unlocked for LatAm’s tech sector to look more like the US or China with big tech giants 

[00:37:04] - The opportunity set in developing a software that serves small and medium businesses in LatAm

[00:40:12] - Sources of available funding for venture and private equity  

[00:42:54] - What valuations look like and whether or not there’s an entry multiple discount

[00:45:12] - Seeking evidence that crypto is used in more valuable ways in emerging markets 

[00:48:00] - Areas where LatAm is operating in a future state more so than elsewhere

[00:50:28] - What the right amount of global firm participation in capital partnerships looks like

[00:52:38] - Big standout lessons from their operating days 

[00:55:53] - What is most exciting and concerning about their investing style and investing writ large in LatAm 

[00:58:51] - The kindest thing anyone has ever done for Julio

Sep 20, 2022

My guest today is Trina Spear, a former investor at Blackstone and the co-founder and CEO of FIGS. FIGS is a multi-billion-dollar public company that built a category-leading brand selling scrubs to healthcare professionals. It was a problem hiding in plain sight and FIGS solved it through vertical integration and customer obsession. Trina shares so many interesting, simple lessons that are often ignored in business. Please enjoy my great conversation with Trina Spear.

 

For the full show notes, transcript, and links to mentioned content, check out the episode page here.

 

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This episode is brought to you by Canalyst. Canalyst is the leading destination for public company data and analysis. If you're a professional equity investor and haven't talked to Canalyst recently, you should give them a shout. Learn more and try Canalyst for yourself at canalyst.com/Patrick

 

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Today's episode is brought to you by Brex. Brex is the integrated financial platform trusted by the world's most innovative entrepreneurs and fastest-growing companies. With Brex, you can move money fast for instant impact with high-limit corporate cards, payments, venture debt, and spend management software all in one place. Ready to accelerate your business? Learn more at brex.com/best.

 

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Invest Like the Best is a property of Colossus, LLC. For more episodes of Invest Like the Best, visit joincolossus.com/episodes

 

Past guests include Tobi Lutke, Kevin Systrom, Mike Krieger, John Collison, Kat Cole, Marc Andreessen, Matthew Ball, Bill Gurley, Anu Hariharan, Ben Thompson, and many more.

 

Stay up to date on all our podcasts by signing up to Colossus Weekly, our quick dive every Sunday highlighting the top business and investing concepts from our podcasts and the best of what we read that week. Sign up here.

 

Follow us on Twitter: @patrick_oshag | @JoinColossus

 

Show Notes

[00:02:28] - [First question] - The original insight that lead to founding FIGS

[00:04:28] - Why obvious opportunities can go so long before being seized 

[00:06:23] - Key dimensions needed to improve the product and the early days 

[00:09:02] - Basic overview of a clothing retailer’s financial profile

[00:10:49] - Financing the business and the early stage cash flow cycle 

[00:13:04] - Strategies to manage workflow and making sacrifices

[00:14:43] - Advice for people trying to build their brands in a hands-on way 

[00:17:14] - The biggest calculated risk she took in the first five years

[00:19:00] - Building a foundation that allowed for such explosive growth

[00:21:44] - The story that allowed FIGS to connect with their customers

[00:24:43] - Painting a picture of the size and scope of healthcare apparel

[00:26:22] - Things lazy companies do and thoughts on product variety

[00:28:54] - Defining SKU productivity and what to do with low productivity products 

[00:30:21] - Chip Wilson Book; Lessons learned from reading Chip’s story

[00:31:58] - Balancing a healthy relationship with your CFO

[00:33:59] - Where she sees the most runway to tackle and continue to execute

[00:35:46] - A women-lead industry and her time spent with Meg Whitman

[00:38:13] - The most essential jobs she feels she has and shouldn’t do as the CEO

[00:40:03] - Thoughts about relationships with investors and messaging 

[00:42:14] - What she’d be most focus on in founders if she was just an investor 

[00:43:57] - The most stressful thing that has ever come across her desk 

[00:44:41] - What types of things bring her the most joy in building FIGS

[00:45:27] - Philosophy of hiring given their small team and when it’s okay to hire

[00:46:56] - Whether or not there’s a role for non A players in businesses

[00:47:48] - The kindest thing anyone has ever done for her

Sep 15, 2022

Today, we are sharing an episode of Web3 Breakdowns with you. My Invest Like the Best conversation with Gabe Leydon last year was one of my favorites and became one of our most popular. Since that conversation, Gabe has become one of the most interesting builders in web3 that I know so I was excited to have him back to share his views of the space and how it might grow. If you enjoy this episode, subscribe to Web3 Breakdowns on your preferred podcast player.

 

My guest today is Gabe Leydon, who’s episode last year was one of our most popular ever. Gabe has spent the last 20 years designing video games and is one of the most original thinkers I know. He was the co-founder of Machine Zone, which pioneered free-to-play hits like Mobile Strike and Game of War. Over the past year, he has been in stealth mode building a web2 meets web3 video game company called Limit Break, which is founded on a brand new business model that he calls free-to-own. We dive into his vision for the future of gaming, how it could onboard a billion users onto the Ethereum network, and why the LTVs of crypto gamers are so far higher than their web2 counterparts. Please enjoy this conversation with Gabe Leydon.

 

For the full show notes, transcript, and links to mentioned content, check out the episode page here.

 

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Show Notes

[00:02:19] - [First question] - What free-to-own gaming means and why it’s exciting 

[00:11:40] - Pre-existing behavior that sets up free-to-own for success

[00:12:32] - The progression from PFP NFTs to clubs and the road ahead

[00:14:16] - Overview of the business and monetization model for free-to-own games

[00:17:51] - The story of DigiDaigaku, their mechanics, the drops, and what lead to their creation

[00:22:14] - Balancing supply and demand in a free-to-own market

[00:24:35] - Creativity and extensions of the DigiDaigaku NFTs

[00:26:13] - Tiering, breeding and the role the Genesis series will play in the Digi universe

[00:27:32] - The level of brand marketing NFTs will unlock for businesses

[00:29:57] - How free-to-own will be the primary monetization method for brands

[00:31:21] - A future with a global marketing shift towards digital property and economies

[00:33:06] - Why most of the winning PFP projects are of unique characters

[00:35:50] - His Twitter strategy and how he’s created such a fervor around him

[00:42:40] - What will define the legendary marketers over the coming decade 

[00:43:06] - Interoperability needed to make real-world NFT uses appealing to consumers 

[00:44:44] - Whether or not we’ll see more token-gated business in the future 

[00:45:40] - Stable Diffusion and his impression of the new AI art generating bots

[00:48:56] - What great distribution looks like in a digitally native world

[00:50:03] - The emphasis of innovation taking place in the metaverse being a bad thing

[00:53:24] - Things he most admires in adjacent games and creators in his world

[00:54:25] - Unique game mechanics that Web3 technology unlocks 

[00:56:16] - NFTs will be the gateway for people to acquire crypto

Sep 13, 2022

My guest today is Harley Finkelstein. Harley is the President of Shopify and has been with the company since its early years. He is a lawyer by training but an entrepreneur by calling and that is the focus of our discussion. We discuss the different dimensions of entrepreneurship and Shopify’s role in promoting it, as well as exploring the company’s transition to public markets, and what the last few years have been like. Please enjoy my discussion with Harley Finkelstein. 

 

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Show Notes

[00:02:26] - [First question] - His interpretation and definition of a person’s life's work 

[00:05:50] - The story of the riverstone and the average polished executive 

[00:08:36] - The thing he can’t help but do; and focusing on our compulsions

[00:13:12] - How he would boil things down to the most simple entrepreneurial formula; Distilled

[00:16:38] - What is harder and easier about new business formation today 

[00:21:03] - The countervailing forces for small-to-medium business entrepreneurship 

[00:24:31] - What he’s learned about operationalizing ideas and mentor lessons

[00:29:08] - A piece of fortune cookie advice that he finds terrible

[00:30:49] - How Brands Grow; his philosophy on marketing & distribution  

[00:35:27] - The most effective distribution strategies he’s seen work in Shopify that might be portable to other businesses

[00:38:43] - What it was like getting their first app developer for the Shopify app store

[00:41:17] - The state of ecommerce today writ large and what trends are interesting 

[00:45:46] - Lessons learned about the digital places that people are buying 

[00:49:06] - What it’s been like as an executive working at a company that had their stock price explode over the pandemic 

[00:52:25] - Tips for communicating effectively with Wall Street

[00:54:14] - An investor that stands out in memory that really impressed him

[00:55:10] - Important aspects of his world that are worth mentioning 

[00:57:04] - Lessons learned about motivating people through DJing 

[00:59:12] - Whether or not reading the crowd can apply to business

[01:03:49] - The kindest thing anyone has ever done for him

Sep 6, 2022

My guest today is Mitch Lasky. Mitch is a partner at Benchmark and one of the leading figures in the video game industry. Over the last 30 years, he has built, led, and invested in a number of the best gaming companies in the world, including Activision, EA, Riot, Snapchat, and Discord. I couldn’t think of a better person to break down the anatomy of great gaming businesses and Mitch does not disappoint. His insights are remarkable. Please enjoy this excellent conversation with Mitch Lasky.

 

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Show Notes

[00:02:31] - [First question] - Why there aren’t more famous gaming investors

[00:05:08] - The most important features of the modern gaming business model

[00:07:11] - Developing his aesthetic taste and investing decision skill

[00:08:03] - What makes a game fun 

[00:09:26] - How delivering a pleasurable active user experience differs from passive content and media

[00:11:09] - The developers of Doom being the first real modern video game company

[00:13:09] - Half-Life’s important role in the development of the gaming industry

[00:14:50] - The powerful notion of the platform-based publisher model

[00:17:54] - How some of the big game aggregators get started in the first place

[00:19:58] - What Riot can teach non-gaming businesses about business writ large

[00:21:10] - Ways that the change from physical games to downloads changed monetization

[00:25:19] - How to quantify an economic model in the new paradigm of superfan monetization

[00:28:27] - What the shift in gaming platforms has done to the business model

[00:31:47] - The impact of Apple’s privacy changes on gaming revenue

[00:34:11] - How the access to professional game engines and a lower friction environment will change the industry

[00:37:04] - Whether or not there is a step beyond mobile

[00:39:42] - Ways platforms like Twitch and Discord have influenced gaming

[00:42:26] - What he’s learned about games that allow them to seemingly exist forever

[00:45:17] - Signs of a healthy gaming community

[00:46:21] - The role of celebrities and influencers and generating retained audiences

[00:47:45] - Whether or not crypto will unlock new opportunities for in-game monetization 

[00:52:50] - Key categories of motivators that could replace a ponzi-style in-game inflation 

[00:54:36] - Contrasting League of Legends versus a Ready Player One style world

[00:58:22] - Emerging technologies and trends that may revolutionize the industry 

[01:00:29] - A future with further consolidation on distribution and power

[01:02:41] - The most genius game pattern he’s ever played

[01:04:44] - What attributes will define the great game investors in the coming decades

[01:06:59] - How much his experience lends itself to investing in other sectors

[01:11:07] - The kindest thing anyone has ever done for him

Aug 30, 2022

My guest today is David Senra. David has studied history’s great founders and entrepreneurs in more depth than anyone I’ve ever met, and I’d wager more than anyone else alive. In this conversation, we cover many of the most common themes he’s discovered studying hundreds of entrepreneurs like Estée Lauder, John Rockefeller, Enzo Ferrari, and Edwin Land. I found this to be one of the most energizing conversations I’ve had in a long time, and one I’ll return to often.

 

David’s work and extraordinary energy aligns so well with our mission at Colossus that we’re excited to partner with him. You’ll soon be able to find his podcasts and transcripts at joincolossus.com where we hope you’ll learn as much from him as we have. If you like this conversation, be sure to subscribe to David’s podcast called Founders. Now onto our discussion. Please enjoy this great conversation with David Senra.

 

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Show Notes

[00:03:01] - [First question] - When he first fell in love with reading

[00:07:01] - What’s rooted in his own history that’s made him obsessive about studying history’s great entrepreneurs and founders - Founders Podcast

[00:10:34] - The first time he connected with someone as a positive role model that he was reading about 

[00:13:45] - How often obsession is apparent in the founders he’s studied across hundreds of biographies 

[00:18:08] - What is often behind obsession and how people listening can apply the lessons to their own lives

[00:22:45] - The dynamic and relationship between inspiration and perspiration 

[00:27:11] - Commonalities between the layers of leadership and support underneath founders

[00:31:52] - Where else he’s seen ego rear its head in good and bad ways 

[00:38:34] - How often do great founders break the law or enter gray areas of it 

[00:41:22] - The role constant learning and listening plays in success

[00:45:12] - Talking about how anything worth doing is worth doing to excess 

[00:52:18] - Describing the soul of founders and businesses

[00:58:39] - What he’s learned about all of these founders as it relates to marketing 

[01:04:38] - A common story that process is often art 

[01:08:10] - Who his idols are in podcasting specifically 

[01:14:55] - Major aspects of people he’s studied that haven’t been discussed yet

[01:19:55] - The kindest thing anyone has ever done for him

Aug 23, 2022

My guest today is Robert Smith, the founder, Chairman, and CEO of Vista Equity Partners. An engineer by training, Robert started Vista at the turn of the millennium and built it into one of the world's most successful software-focused investment firms. We discuss the white space left in enterprise software investing, the importance of capital cycles, and what he’s learned building an iconic investing franchise. Please enjoy my discussion with Robert Smith.

 

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Show Notes

[00:02:34] - [First question] - What the enterprise software market looks and feels like to him

[00:05:52] - Whether or not software is becoming a saturated market and what will drive demand over the coming decades

[00:09:42] - Bringing an engineering mindset to enterprise software investing and culture

[00:12:36] - A single change he made to a business that stands out most in memory

[00:14:33] - Qualities that are most critical in defining a good enterprise software company

[00:18:07] - How the profile of companies he’s bought has changed over the years

[00:20:33] - Categories of software he tends to gravitate towards 

[00:23:56] - Evolving his model for considering what multiple to pay for a business and thinking about p/e growth multiples 

[00:27:17] - Lessons learned about customer churn over his twenty two year career

[00:29:44] - Capital cycles and how much they truly impact the software world 

[00:31:53] - What elements of building Vista have most appealed to him over the years  

[00:34:31] - Changing their investment strategy as the world continues to change

[00:38:06] - The war for talent and what his senior team would debate most 

[00:40:01] - Biggest mistakes Vista has made and what they taught him

[00:41:09] - What has him most insecure or paranoid about the platform he’s built

[00:43:10] - The advice he’d give on having good relationships with LPs

[00:44:57] - The largest risk he or Vista has ever intentionally taken 

[00:46:15] - What he’s learned about having a winning negotiations and sales approach

[00:49:27] - Who he’d give all of his capital to outside of Vista

[00:50:06] - How he arrived at the themes he tends to be philanthropic towards

[00:53:08] - The work he does in the foster world

[00:54:49] - The kindest thing anyone has ever done for him

Aug 16, 2022

My guest today is Katherine Boyle, a general partner at Andreessen Horowitz. Katherine started her career as a reporter for The Washington Post before moving into VC at General Catalyst. She now leads a practice at a16z called American Dynamism, investing in companies that are solving critical issues in areas like defense, housing, and education. In the past year, I've spoken to Marc Andreessen, Josh Wolfe, and a number of founders about this need to build societally important businesses so I was excited to explore the topic in even more detail today. Please enjoy my conversation with Katherine Boyle.

 

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The content here is for informational purposes only and should not be taken as legal, business, tax or investment advice, or be used to evaluate any investment or security and is not directed at any investors or potential investors in any a16z fund. For more details, please see a16z.com/disclosures.

 

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Show Notes

[00:02:42] - [First question] - The origin and overview of the term American Dynamism 

[00:05:01] - Why the shift to a move slow and make sure nothing breaks mentality

[00:07:31] - What about the American system today feels broken and stale 

[00:09:48] - Becoming a journalist at The Washington Post 

[00:11:35] - Describing the power landscape of media as it exists today  

[00:12:28] - Major categories of American Dynamism that matter most  

[00:14:29] - What matters more or less to her as an investor in  these categories 

[00:17:31] - Whether or not there’s anything fundamentally broken about our government

[00:19:36] - The Systems Bible; What excites her about aerospace and defense and what creates opportunity and demand in these sectors

[00:22:44] - Explanation of what it means when the factory is the product 

[00:23:47] - How much is flowing into aerospace and defense currently 

[00:26:01] - An overview of how lobbying works and who does it and why

[00:29:07] - Whether or not she considers these sectors from a bottom up perspective as in investor   

[00:30:32] - What other categories she feels pulled towards 

[00:33:09] - The biggest problems that currently exist in the K-12 school system 

[00:35:34] - Thoughts on how states are competing citizens and how it plays into American Dynamism

[00:37:34] - The role immigration will play in range of outcomes in these main categories 

[00:39:32] - Key takeaways about housing in light of American Dynamism  

[00:42:09] - Her interpretation of the chart that shows inflation in categories over time

[00:44:40] - How different the investing dynamics are in all of these categories and thoughts on valuation in this world 

[00:47:56] - Whether or not expected returns and risk profiles are different in this area 

[00:48:36] - The importance of effective a founder’s storytelling, knowledge and customer empathy

[00:49:55] - Overview of the anatomy of a great story  

[00:51:30] - The story she tells founders at this stage so establish a partnership 

[00:52:46] - The kindest thing that anyone has ever done for her

Aug 9, 2022

My guest today is Ravi Gupta. Ravi spent a decade in private equity at KKR before joining Instacart as their first CFO and COO. He navigated them through a critical moment in their history and returned to investing in 2019 as a partner at Sequoia. Our discussion gets to the heart of what it means to build and invest in great businesses, and we talk a lot about the personal side of the journey, which tends to get overlooked. Please enjoy this great conversation with Ravi Gupta.

 

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Show Notes

[00:02:34] - [First question] - Why it’s important to keep the main thing the main thing

[00:04:59] - His first exposure to this idea; How Will You Measure Your Life

[00:07:50] - Thoughts on the conflict of the main thing for a business and a person

[00:11:45] - The most painful episode of enacting this philosophy at Instacart 

[00:16:13] - How this concept has manifested in his life as an investor at Sequoia 

[00:19:16] - Amazon’s 14 leadership principles vs. his concept of focus

[00:21:55] - What good main things share in common and their attributes; Frank Slootman Episode

[00:24:48] - Whether or not the feedback loop for things that work are very short 

[00:26:04] - The nature of joy and competitiveness in company culture 

[00:29:01] - How he assesses the depth that motivation runs through people and companies

[00:32:43] - Analysis of his own motivations in life 

[00:35:34] - Differences and shortcomings of virtuous and vicious motivators 

[00:37:15] - How to accurately figure out someones motivators in a short period of time

[00:40:22] - Being Demanding and Supportive; Why these words pair so well together

[00:45:55] - What he’s looking for in companies given all of the ideas discussed so far

[00:51:11] - How his ideology manifests inside of Sequoia 

[00:58:44] - What it’s like to mentor an apprentice and how to do it well

[01:02:40] - Adjusting behaviors to meet current markets where they’re at 

[01:06:13] - Defining what a great product is

[01:07:56] - What he did to turn around Instacart by narrowing their focus

[01:12:28] - The things that most drove the switchover at Instacart

[01:14:53] - The kindest thing anyone has ever done for him

Aug 2, 2022

My guest today is Will Thorndike. I first spoke to Will in 2017 about his excellent book The Outsiders and his career in private equity. I titled that conversation: How Skilled Capital Allocators Compound Capital. In many ways this conversation continues where that one left off. Through the lens of his new project, a podcast called 50X, we explore the power of multi-decade holding periods and the shared characteristics of businesses that are able to compound returns at high rates for abnormally long periods of time. Please enjoy this discussion with my friend, Will Thorndike, and if you haven’t subscribed to 50X, I highly recommend doing so.

 

For the full show notes, transcript, and links to mentioned content, check out the episode page here.

 

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Show Notes

[00:02:45] - [First question] - How working on The Outsiders project shaped his thinking

[00:06:29] - His interest in long-term holding periods and dealing with multi-decade time horizons

[00:09:42] - Shared characteristics among compounding machines

[00:11:23] - Defining capital efficiency and the return on tangible capital metric 

[00:13:02] - An example of an attractive business that requires a lot maintenance CapEx

[00:14:22] - Thoughts on the measurement of intangibles and whether or not he’d avoid great businesses that are intangible heavy 

[00:15:25] - Tangible ways capital efficiency rolls into compounding capacity 

[00:17:45] - Being patient early on and things that reveal themselves after doing thorough year long research in a company like TransDigm

[00:20:32] - Lessons learned about good game selection for companies 

[00:22:47] - Common features of customers that tend to be served by the businesses he invests in 

[00:23:43] - Evaluating culture and its ability to propagate forward in the public equity markets 

[00:25:09] - An example of a decentralized structure and why it works so well

[00:27:53] - Successful decentralized companies regularly assemble general managers and compare their results and share ideas

[00:28:46] - Thoughts about software as a business model and lessons learned about this industry across his career

[00:30:00] - What the best serial acquirers do for long-term holders

[00:31:46] - Advantages of using debt for financing and acquisitions  

[00:33:39] - How different the future might be for young CEOs with capital allocator mindsets

[00:35:40] - Other forms of recurring revenue he’s seen and things that are one the line between recurring and non-recurring revenue

[00:37:42] - The biggest changes for him moving from outside client capital to just managing his own

[00:39:09] - 3 companies that Housatonic Partners has owned for more than 25 years

[00:40:29] - What made Karen Moriarty so good for so long 

[00:42:36] - The crossover between public and private investing and the virtues of each sector

[00:45:35] - How he thinks about the function of Compounding Labs and what he wants it to become 

[00:47:10] - What is at the top of his wish list of the companies he wants to explore 

[00:49:15] - Which companies he’d still be fascinated to learn about that don’t fit the criteria he’s laid out today 

[00:50:25] - The development of investor conviction over time and what he’s learned about it

[00:52:19] - Lessons learned about producing great media

[00:53:43] - What he can teach us about deep research on companies with analysts

[00:55:10] - Adjusting his thinking and investing in a high variance world

Jul 26, 2022

My guest today is Alok Vasudev. Alok is an early-stage investor who has been in the crypto space for a very long time. Before co-founding Standard Crypto, he was an investor at Benchmark and S28 Capital. Given Alok's experience and the prevailing mood right now in crypto, this is a particularly interesting discussion on the ecosystem writ large. We discuss whether the bubble can be thought of as productive speculation, his views on skeptics in the space, and look at some big, potentially, underestimated ideas. Please enjoy my conversation with Alok Vasudev.

 

For the full show notes, transcript, and links to mentioned content, check out the episode page here.

 

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Show Notes

[00:02:31] - [First question] - His history in venture and thoughts on the crypto ecosystem

[00:06:06] - What it means to be great at searching for white space as a venture capitalist

[00:08:00] - Things his original venture peers would say he was best and worst at

[00:09:24] - How he would address crypto skeptics broadly given today’s market

[00:13:35] - Whether or not it’s appropriate to look at each crypto token as a stock 

[00:15:32] - The pool of demand for Dai and the end use-case itself for the stablecoin 

[00:17:01] - What matters to him the most in the world of stablecoins 

[00:19:59] - Defining sound and unsound collateral 

[00:21:02] - Why the US doesn’t digitize the dollar and how being a government entity would impede some of their capabilities 

[00:23:21] - What a community operated computer unlocks compared to a standalone one

[00:27:09] - What persistence and resilience from community computers open up  

[00:29:30] - Something going on that people aren’t talking about yet in regards to blockchains

[00:33:54] - The notion of productive speculation and what it means 

[00:36:03] - One of the best historical examples of productive speculation

[00:42:29] - How things outside of the blockchain become integrated and connected to it

[00:45:43] - Ways crypto will impact the gaming world over the coming years

[00:49:10] - Handicapping a potential future where NFTs work and blockchains don’t benefit

[00:51:42] - Thoughts on the world of art, IP, NFTs, and its changing landscape

[00:54:43] - Whether or not there are companies being built that can streamline and facilitate this form of connection between artists and their fanbases

[00:58:13] - Other controversial opinions he holds in the crypto community 

[01:03:13] - What he’s most bullish and bearish on right now

[01:07:29] - The kindest thing anyone has ever done for him

Jul 19, 2022

My guest today is Matthew Ball. Matt is an investor, the former head of strategy at Amazon studios, and one of the brightest minds in the media industry. Through his essays and now his book, which launches today, Matt has established himself as the foremost authority on the Metaverse, which has stormed into the public eye since I first had him on the show two years ago. The Metaverse is the focus of our discussion and I hope you enjoy this encyclopedic tour through all of its details as much as I did.

 

For the full show notes, transcript, and links to mentioned content, check out the episode page here.

 

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Show Notes

[00:02:37] - [First question] - Which most represents the Metaverse: Minecraft, Ready Player One, Fortnite, or Facebook’s Horizon

[00:05:58] - Facebook trying to own the concept of the Metaverse by changing their name 

[00:09:22] - Defining what the Metaverse is and a good working definition of it

[00:11:33] - The state of the engines behind 3D output and the history of them 

[00:16:32] - The role IP played in bootstrapping the first Metaverses 

[00:18:32] - Where the ability to create digital environments will lead, and what Unreal 7 could look like compared to Unreal 5 today

[00:21:03] - Natural limits of the Metaverse compared to real-world experiences

[00:24:16] - Other sensory inputs that will need to be improved for digital immersion

[00:26:59] - Why the initial excitement of trying something like Oculus wears off over time, both for casual gamers and those excited about this new frontier

[00:31:40] - Changes in technology and new projects that have him most excited that will empower the digital infrastructure for Metaverses

[00:37:14] - What interoperability means and why it has its own chapter in his book

[00:31:52] - How Roblox connects with Fortnite and how far down we need to go to build a bridge between digital worlds

[00:46:13] - What will drive commerce in the Metaverse and the possibility for a singular currency standard

[00:51:35] - Considering the demand for the Metaverse and whether or not it will be a constraint on adoption and success

[00:57:37] - What the modern equivalent of a lemonade stand will be in the Metaverse

[00:59:58] - The lower adoption rates for more participatory media consumption
[01:03:19] - Potential pitfalls and the dark side of the metaverse

[01:06:14] - Who the categorical winners of the Metaverse might be   

[01:14:15] - The top things he would suggest exploring to best understand the Metaverse

Jul 14, 2022

Today we are dropping a special episode in the Invest Like the Best feed. You will hear the first episode of 50X – a new series from Will Thorndike and the team at Compounding Labs, in partnership with ColossusWill’s book, The Outsiders, is one of the best business and investing books you will find. Now you will hear him continuing his work in the hosting chair as he looks in detail at investments that have appreciated at least 50-fold.

First up is TransDigm, an aerospace components manufacturer that has returned over 1,750X since its inception nearly three decades earlier. In this episode, Will is joined by Nick Howley, TransDigm’s long-time CEO and Chairman. Make sure to subscribe to 50X in your preferred podcast player.

 

For the full show notes, transcript, and links to mentioned content, check out the episode page here.

 

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50X is a podcast that dissects the anatomy of extraordinary long-term investments. The show is hosted by Will Thorndike and the team at Compounding Labs, and brought to you in partnership with Colossus.

 

In each episode of 50X, we look in detail at an investment that has appreciated at least 50-fold. From the seat of the professional investor and occasionally the CEO, we explore its origins, evolution, and eventual outcome, studying key themes around long-term value creation ranging from operations, capital allocation, and culture to pivotal buy and sell decisions. To enhance the quality and depth of our interviews, we rigorously study each asset in advance, diving into all available public and private resources.

 

Learn more and dive into our research at 50xpodcast.com

 

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Show Notes

[00:00:00] – 50X Introduction 

[00:02:00] – Sponsorship: Tegus

[00:07:04] – Episode Introduction 

[00:09:05] – Nick’s Background pre-TransDigm

[00:11:56] – Original Acquisition from Imo Industries in 1993

[00:15:33] – Thesis and Performance under Kelso & Co.’s Ownership

[00:18:42] – Genesis of Three Key Value Drivers: Price, Productivity, and New Business

[00:21:07] – Building the Management Team

[00:24:05] – Early Lessons on Value Drivers

[00:27:53] – Capital Allocation under Kelso & Co.

[00:28:51] – Sale to Odyssey Investment Partners in 1998

[00:30:26] – Strategy under Odyssey’s Ownership

[00:31:51] – Early Acquisitions and Integration Playbook

[00:37:26] – Early External Crises

[00:41:13] – Snapshot at Conclusion of Odyssey’s Ownership in 2003

[00:43:19] – Building a Decentralized Culture  

[00:46:23] – Differentiated Approach to Compensation

[00:52:12] – Sale to Warburg Pincus in 2003

[00:55:51] – Shift to Inorganic Growth under Warburg’s Ownership

[00:58:08] – Evolution of M&A Process

[01:05:37] – Post-Acquisition Expectations and Post-Mortem Process

[01:09:48] – Divesting Acquired Assets to Maintain Focus

[01:11:29] – Embedding Value-Generative Culture via Hiring and Training

[01:13:54] – Quarterly Product Line Reviews

[01:20:43] – Recap of Private Investment Returns and Snapshot pre-IPO

Jul 12, 2022

My guest today is Alice Bentinck, co-founder of Entrepreneur First. Entrepreneur First, or EF, invests pre-company by systematizing the way that talented individuals find co-founders, develop ideas, and scale into companies. They’re an incubator of teams and ideas on a mission to create impactful companies that, without their help, wouldn’t exist. I first spoke with Alice’s co-founder, Matt Clifford, over two years ago and have been fascinated with EF’s model of investing ever since. Please enjoy my conversation with Alice Bentinck.

 

For the full show notes, transcript, and links to mentioned content, check out the episode page here.

 

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Show Notes

[00:02:33] - [First question] - Overview of what Entrepreneur First is today

[00:05:57] - How she identifies the people to bring into each cohort and convince them to quit their job to join EF for eight weeks

[00:10:10] - Categories of the main types of people who join the EF program

[00:12:32] - What she’s learned about negative screening at the first stage of recruits 

[00:14:07] - Positive signals she looks for in early admissions 

[00:17:46] - What the program itself feels like as a participant

[00:21:29] - Reasons partners tend to fail and whether or not EF advises equity splits between founders

[00:24:49] - How important the idea is that the team will be working on 

[00:28:04] - Exercises she enjoys doing with the new cohorts around social norms

[00:30:38] - How the experience looks physically in each city 

[00:32:57] - Categories of data collected as the cohorts unfold and making investment decisions

[00:36:46] - Ways the companies mature after EF and what kinds of investors fund the next stage of their startups

[00:40:55] - Why aren’t there ten EF style initiatives or organizations

[00:44:26] - Motivations for the change in their holding company structure

[00:46:48] - The love of product and ideas she’s playing with right now

[00:51:49] - Cities she has her eye on that EF is not a participant in today and criteria that makes a city desirable for EF

[00:54:03] - A piece of software that EF could benefit from that doesn’t exist yet

[00:55:30] - The keys to her harmonious relationship with her co-founder Matt 

[00:59:01] - National and international impediments that directly impact company building

[01:01:36] - The kindest thing anyone has ever done for her

Jul 5, 2022

My guest today is Jess Lee. Jess is a partner at Sequoia Capital as well as their Chief Product Officer. Before becoming an investor, Jess co-founded fashion app, Polyvore, and was an early product manager for Google Maps. Most recently, she founded All Raise, a non-profit that is changing the gender balance in tech. Our discussion ranges from Burning Man to Marvel to Sequoia’s mobile app and I hope that Jess’s passion for delighting users rubs off on you. Please enjoy my conversation with Jess Lee.

 

For the full show notes, transcript, and links to mentioned content, check out the episode page here.

 

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Past guests include Tobi Lutke, Kevin Systrom, Mike Krieger, John Collison, Kat Cole, Marc Andreessen, Matthew Ball, Bill Gurley, Anu Hariharan, Ben Thompson, and many more.

 

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Show Notes

[00:02:35] - [First question] - Why more investment firms don’t have a product mindset

[00:05:22] - How to approach building a productized version of capital 

[00:08:00] - Ways Ampersand measures success and judging their own performance 

[00:08:49] - Driving reasons that Sequoia wins deals beyond their brand name

[00:10:28] - How her work as CPO at Sequoia has changed her investing approach

[00:12:28] - Everything she’s learned about community and its relevance to business 

[00:17:48] - What the gold standards are for studying strongly built communities 

[00:19:42] - What it is about Comic-Con that works so well from a community standard  

[00:21:18] - The role that scarcity plays in communities writ large

[00:23:10] - Product mindset and customer obsession 

[00:24:33] - Knowing when it’s okay to begin expanding 

[00:25:14] - The formative experiences or lenses that inform her investing decisions

[00:28:12] - Rates of change in her investment progress and dollars going to female founders

[00:29:36] - Systemic bias and what’s driving a lack of funds towards female founders 

[00:32:26] - How she applies community building lessons to All Raise

[00:33:20] - The internal learning culture in Sequoia that others could adopt and benefit from

[00:37:01] - Which Marvel superheroes her Sequoia partners would be  

[00:39:05] - Seeds of motivation for Arc and what it is

[00:43:06] - When you should innovate and when you shouldn’t reinvent the wheel 

[00:44:31] - The best ways she’s seen companies manage and support human capital

[00:45:36] - Biggest mistakes made when managing human capital 

[00:46:42] - What working on Google Maps taught her about product development 

[00:48:42] - Someone she admires and has learned the most from in All Raise  

[00:50:02] - Measuring success at Sequoia over the next ten years  

[00:52:20] - The kindest thing anyone has ever done for her

[00:53:42] - What it was that made the people who believed in her take a chance on her 

[00:55:03] - Things in pop culture today that most has her attention

Jun 28, 2022

My guest today is Ken Stanley. Ken is a Professor in Computer Science and a pioneer in the field of neuroevolution. He is also the co-author of a book called, Why Greatness Cannot Be Planned, which details a provocative idea that setting big, audacious goals can reduce the odds of achieving something great. We discuss that revelation in detail and how to apply it in our day-to-day lives. Please enjoy this great discussion with Ken Stanley.

 

For the full show notes, transcript, and links to mentioned content, check out the episode page here.

 

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Today's episode is brought to you by Brex, the integrated financial platform trusted by the world's most innovative entrepreneurs and fastest-growing companies. With Brex, you can move money fast for instant impact with high-limit corporate cards, payments, venture debt, and spend management software all in one place. Ready to accelerate your business? Learn more at brex.com/best.

 

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Invest Like the Best is a property of Colossus, LLC. For more episodes of Invest Like the Best, visit joincolossus.com/episodes

 

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Show Notes

[00:02:36] - [First question] - The best way to change the world is to stop trying to change it

[00:06:26] - The kinds of goals his work addresses and the ones it doesn’t

[00:08:46] - Almost no prerequisite to any major invention was invented with that major invention in mind

[00:14:04] - Picbreeder

[00:17:21] - How looking for specific results often makes arriving at them a longer process

[00:24:00] - The importance of the individual in a web of invention and disruption

[00:28:30] - How generations progressed in Picbreeder when consensus mechanisms were inserted into the process 

[00:31:24] - Examples of stepping stones that were invented that became something even greater

[00:36:02] - What his research means for how we should conduct ourselves writ large

[00:44:17] - Thoughts on necessity being the mother of all invention

[00:50:08] - The ways that society is arranged is psychologically toxic

[00:55:14] - The role that constraints play in creative output and outcomes in general; Brett Victor - Inventing on Principle

[01:01:10] - What the constraints are that he sets for himself in AI development

[01:04:44] - To know what’s new you need to know what’s not new

[01:06:47] - The kindest thing anyone has ever done for him

[01:08:28] - How he would allocate resources to create more innovation in the world

Jun 21, 2022

My guest today is Lydia Jett, Managing Partner of SoftBank Investment Advisers. Lydia leads the team’s consumer, internet, and e-commerce investments and has worked with many of the most significant consumer platforms in the world, including as a board member of Coupang and Flipkart. We cover all aspects of e-commerce and explore Lydia’s evolution as an investor alongside Masa Son at SoftBank. Please enjoy my conversation with Lydia Jett. 

 

For the full show notes, transcript, and links to mentioned content, check out the episode page here.

 

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Today's episode is brought to you by Brex, the integrated financial platform trusted by the world's most innovative entrepreneurs and fastest-growing companies. With Brex, you can move money fast for instant impact with high-limit corporate cards, payments, venture debt, and spend management software all in one place. Ready to accelerate your business? Learn more at brex.com/best.

 

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Invest Like the Best is a property of Colossus, LLC. For more episodes of Invest Like the Best, visit joincolossus.com/episodes

 

Past guests include Tobi Lutke, Kevin Systrom, Mike Krieger, John Collison, Kat Cole, Marc Andreessen, Matthew Ball, Bill Gurley, Anu Hariharan, Ben Thompson, and many more.

 

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Show Notes

[00:02:34] - [First question] - What curiosity thread she’s been pulling on thus far in her career

[00:05:17] - The biggest felt differences doing things one way for a decade and changing now

[00:07:08] - Learning about tailwinds and what the predominant ones are that exist today

[00:08:38] - How much room to go there is left in the world transitioning to e-commerce

[00:10:44] - Competitive frontiers that exist today in e-commerce

[00:12:14] - What drives companies that grow faster than their competitors

[00:13:15] - What areas the world’s most innovative e-commerce companies are focused on

[00:16:38] - Unique characteristics that they select for in ecommerce CEOs and founders

[00:17:44] - Which country she would send an American investor to in order to learn more

[00:19:03] - Upside down approaches to e-commerce that aren’t common in America yet

[00:20:15] - Subcategories and sub sectors she’s most drawn towards lately

[00:23:05] - Lessons learned about business models that don’t work in e-commerce

[00:27:47] - What western investors should know about Coupang 

[00:30:12] - Everything she’s learned about vertical integration

[00:33:01] - Everything she’s learned and cares about in regards to margins

[00:34:24] - Evaluating a younger company’s ability to drive margins in the future

[00:37:17] - The most extreme version of efficiency gain she’s seen deployed

[00:39:06] - Whether or not the public perception of SoftBank’s simplified approach is accurate

[00:41:27] - The role the size of assets plays at SoftBank

[00:47:42] - Focusing on efficiency and smart allocation first before trying to scale 

[00:50:33] - Companies as products that investors buy and defining what great looks like

[00:53:16] - The danger of premature optimization around a set of KPIs 

[00:55:46] - How important the specific founder is for their given e-commerce company

[00:58:18] - Why e-commerce companies tend to start from a worse place than offline ones

[00:59:45] - Ways that she’s changed from working alongside Masayoshi Son for a year

[01:03:31] - Who comes most to mind as a great investor    

[01:05:23] - The kindest thing that anyone has ever done for her

Jun 14, 2022

My guests today are Josh Wolfe and Chris Power. Josh will be a familiar voice to many of you and is the co-founder and General Partner of Lux Capital. Chris is the founder and CEO of advanced manufacturing start-up, Hadrian. Most of our discussion centers on the need to modernize the factories that supply our space and defense industries. But given the current market environment, we also talk about capital conditions and the responsibility to build products that really matter. Please enjoy this conversation with Josh Wolfe and Chris Power.

 

For the full show notes, transcript, and links to mentioned content, check out the episode page here.

 

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This episode is brought to you by Tegus. Tegus streamlines the investment research process so you can get up to speed and find answers to critical questions on companies faster and more efficiently. The Tegus platform surfaces the hard-to-get qualitative insights, gives instant access to critical public financial data through BamSEC, and helps you set up customized expert calls. It’s all done on a single, modern SaaS platform that offers 360-degree insight into any public or private company. As a listener, you can take Tegus for a free test drive by visiting tegus.co/patrick. And until 2023 every Tegus license comes with complimentary access to BamSec by Tegus.

 

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Today's episode is brought to you by Brex, the integrated financial platform trusted by the world's most innovative entrepreneurs and fastest-growing companies. With Brex, you can move money fast for instant impact with high-limit corporate cards, payments, venture debt, and spend management software all in one place. Ready to accelerate your business? Learn more at brex.com/best.

 

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Invest Like the Best is a property of Colossus, LLC. For more episodes of Invest Like the Best, visit joincolossus.com/episodes

 

Past guests include Tobi Lutke, Kevin Systrom, Mike Krieger, John Collison, Kat Cole, Marc Andreessen, Matthew Ball, Bill Gurley, Anu Hariharan, Ben Thompson, and many more.

 

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Show Notes

[00:02:40] - [First question] - An overview of the precision manufacturing industry writ large

[00:08:28] - Why the manufacturing sector has so many great investment opportunities

[00:12:58] - Anduril Breakdown; What Hadrian in its final form will unlock for manufacturing

[00:16:08] - What the demand side looks like for manufacturers in its current state today 

[00:18:29] - How the nature of demand will shift for this style of manufacturing in the future

[00:22:51] - Important rare earth materials, supply chain constraints, and the revival of commodities 

[00:27:55] - The key set of jobs being done by mom and pop shops that could be innovated on and done within a Hadrian factory 

[00:30:35] - What is going on inside of a Hadrian factory and how they will evolve over time 

[00:32:10] - Prosecuting diligence on someone's ability to execute on their behalf

[00:37:14] - The PhD arrogance trap and how a Hadrian machine will be better in five years from now

[00:39:44] - Units of innovation and optimization driven by software 

[00:41:43] - Walkthrough of the bubble and anti-bubble concept and funding companies in today’s markets  

[00:48:08] - Breadth of ability versus focus and selling parts to buyers early on

[00:50:42] - Lessons learned and advice for understanding the focus problem 

[00:52:32] - Whether or not the climbing costs of experimentation is a bad thing

[00:56:39] - Fat startup vs. lean startups and making the hardest irreversible decision during Hadrian’s early days

[00:58:31] - Enduring more schlep work than less being a good signal

[00:59:06] - Chris’ thoughts on the future of Hadrian and defining the exciting and scary edges of the spectrum of outcomes

[01:03:36] - Josh’s thoughts on the future of Hadrian and defining the exciting and scary edges of the spectrum of outcomes

[01:07:22] - The kindest thing anyone has ever done for Chris

Jun 7, 2022

My guest today is Martin Casado. Martin is a general partner at Andreessen Horowitz where he focuses on digital infrastructure. Before joining a16z, Martin pioneered software-defined networking and co-founded Nicira, which was bought by VMware for $1.3 billion in 2012. Martin has studied, built, and invested in digital infrastructure his whole career and is the perfect person to discuss the most interesting aspects of the industry. Please enjoy this great conversation with Martin Casado.

 

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Show Notes

[00:02:43] - [First question] - The state of the digital infrastructure industry today 

[00:04:02] - The major stages and eras of cloud technology 

[00:06:30] - Overview of Dropbox’s story and the two major trends at the time of its emergence

[00:10:12] - Lost margin and lost market cap from big users of the public cloud 

[00:12:14] - Whether or not there is a headwind coming for public cloud providers

[00:14:07] - The base level primitives of the digital world and innovation within those areas

[00:17:33] - How entrepreneurs might go after the biggest public cloud providers

[00:19:37] - His view on API first companies and granular monetizable units in growing markets

[00:23:20] - Developer facing tools and what works well when going to market 

[00:25:34] - Lessons learned about successfully building relationships between a company and developers as a buying class 

[00:27:12] - The difference between a front-end and back-end developer and what is changing in their responsibilities 

[00:28:45] - What he looks for as an investor when he’s processing a new API first company

[00:30:31] - Common redflags and disqualifying observations for an API first company 

[00:31:59] - Pricing usage and building a revenue model around one of these businesses

[00:33:49] - Reasons why this proliferation is happening and important parts of the data stack

[00:36:35] - Frank Slootman Episode; Snowflake’s offering for their users, their explosive growth, and primitives in their sector

[00:39:06] - The history of digital security and potential opportunities as an investor

[00:40:19] - How digital infrastructure intersects with the real world and hardware world

[00:42:14] - What he’s most excited about that digital infrastructure might unlock in the future

[00:43:33] - How to screen out people for their potential to deliver transformative technology

[00:45:38] - What he’d like to know about the future that he isn’t sure of yet 

[00:47:45] - Things he’s most intrigued about by cryptocurrencies as an infrastructure person

[00:51:36] - Where he’s most bullish and bearish relative to his peers in digital infrastructure

[00:52:49] - The kindest thing anyone has ever done for him

May 31, 2022

My guest today is Aswath Damodaran, a Professor of Finance at NYU’s Stern School of Business. Aswath is one of the clearest teachers of investing and finance in our industry and through his blog, books, and YouTube has open-sourced his wisdom for decades. This conversation is a masterclass of key investing concepts. We discuss inflation, narratives, disruption, the evolution of alpha and edge, and his thoughts on ESG. Please enjoy this great conversation with Aswath Damodaran.

 

For the full show notes, transcript, and links to mentioned content, check out the episode page here.

 

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Show Notes

[00:02:43] - [First question] - How he thinks about inflation as a now dominant force

[00:04:33] - Why inflation is so important across the spectrum

[00:09:02] - Big lessons from other periods of historically high inflation writ large

[00:10:45] - Reasons why equities as an asset class struggle in high inflation environments

[00:15:21] - The relationship betweens goods versus services in times of high inflation

[00:16:59] - Broader economic implications especially for income inequality

[00:19:03] - The Fed taking inflation seriously now when they didn’t and thoughts on the policy response to today’s situation

[00:21:05] - How smart companies are defensively adjusting to inflation

[00:24:38] - Thoughts on returns on invested capital with emphasis on invested capital 

[00:27:46] - The importance of a capital allocation skill-set for executive team members

[00:29:32] - Further historic lessons and how he’s being defensive against inflation

[00:33:09] - Lessons learned about Amazon valuing them every year since their inception

[00:37:50] - How to figure out a new company’s narrative and the story they’re telling

[00:42:25] - Whenever he sees Thanos in the Avengers he thinks of Amazon

[00:44:51] - Thoughts on Facebook, Apple and Microsoft

[00:48:26] - The evolution of edge and the search for alpha

[00:54:37] - Whether or not there’s utility in studying other investors 

[00:57:16] - Skill versus luck and the most common valuation mistakes he’s made

[00:59:09] - Assuming long-term growth rates and changing company life cycles

[01:02:02] - Momentum and Value investing in today’s market

[01:07:24] - Differences between interest rates and discount rates in regards to inflation

[01:10:29] - Thoughts on equity risk premium in a market like this

[01:12:00] - How today’s market affects early stage equity investment

[01:14:36] - The growing popularity of ESG and his seemingly contrarian view on it

[01:24:03] - Nature of disruption as a force and companies that are protected from it

[01:28:24] - Assigning a disruption risk premium when valuing companies

[01:31:17] - Characteristics that will define the most successful leaders over the next decade

[01:32:52] - What he makes of Elon Musk buying Twitter

[01:34:24] - Other major topics he has a divergent view on 

[01:38:37] - Narrative And Numbers; The kindest thing anyone has ever done for him

[01:38:55] - Teaching with a goal of changing mindsets 

May 26, 2022

Today, we are running a special episode of Business Breakdowns. With geopolitics playing an increasingly important role in society again, this episode with Anduril’s CEO offers an inside look at the state of the defense industry and how it is changing. If you enjoy this episode, subscribe to Business Breakdowns on your preferred podcast player, where you’ll find past episodes on Block, Goldman Sachs, AutoZone and many others.

 

Today, we are breaking down Anduril. Anduril builds high tech defense systems for the US Department of Defense and its allies. Crucially, it does so with speed that emanates from Silicon Valley. Founded in 2017 by Palmer Luckey, who previously built and sold Oculus to Facebook, Anduril has achieved the rare feat of challenging the established order in the defense industry.

 

To break down Anduril, I’m joined by the company’s CEO and co-founder, Brian Schimpf. We discuss the history of the defense industry, how Anduril’s business is counter positioned against the legacy cost-plus model, and what Brian has learned about selling to the DoD. Please enjoy this breakdown of Anduril.

 

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Show Notes

[00:02:52] - [First question] - The history of defense technology and the technological and competitive landscape when he set out to build Anduril

[00:08:22] - What the early experience was like when approaching the government and finding an early adopter

[00:12:44] - Necessity being the mother of invention when it came to developing drones

[00:16:37] - What it’s like to develop hardware and software products at the same time 

[00:20:26] - How the defense business complex works economically and overview of the detailed cost plus model

[00:24:44] - The state of military technology and military conflict today writ large

[00:31:10] - Are we heading to a future where warfare is mostly machine against machine? 

[00:33:34] - Comparing the ghost drone system to predator drones

[00:38:40] - Guiding principles as a firm and deciding on their product roadmap

[00:43:25] - An overview of their product lineup and what they’ve built so far 

[00:48:13] - Having an open innovation policy to promote competition

[00:49:37] - The nuance of politics when it comes to building and running their business

[00:51:56] - Most difficult decisions he’s had to make through Anduril’s history 

[00:53:51] - How he overcame Anduril’s lowest points and biggest challenges 

[00:58:38] - Thoughts on effectively compounding hardware innovation 

[01:02:23] - A moment he’s most proud of and regrets most in Anduril’s history

[01:04:20] - Lessons learned from observing Palantir and SpaceX 

[01:08:37] - The kindest thing anyone has ever done for him

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